FE-Paul: I feel like I've been drunk for like 10 hours and I haven't drank a damn thing. I don't know what the hell's going on. I think somebody caught me pretty good during Buried Alive.

Artie: During Buried Alive? That's pretty metal.

FE-FE-Paul: That is pretty metal. Hmmm ok questions.

Artie: Questions help. We can just hang out and talk...You got any problems?

FE-FE-Paul: Problems? yeah.... I gotta lay down. Gerrett you gotta move.

FE-Gerrett: ...So your new CD's coming out?

Artie: Yeah, January 11th which is a couple of days away...two weeks, something like that.

FE-FE-Paul: How'd you guys get hooked up with Some?

Artie: Well, I played with Walter for two years World's Fastest Car, so that was like..when we did the demo, Some was really the only label we even gave it to. I mean we had all these people like "Yeah!" and everything, like Rev and labels like that, but we gave it to Some and they wanted to do one off and thats really what I wanted because if we signed to a bigger indie, we'd have to do two or three records and that kinda sucks. Our real major goal is to go to a major label anyway, so really from the beginning we were always shooting over where we were and to not have any contractual ties was really a good way of going about that.

FE-FE-Paul:You guys all came from a lot of different styles of bands, and none of them really sounded like this. Did you guys all just decide to do something different? or...

Artie: Well, it was kinda like my deal. Well Phil and I really. Phil was actually the one who approached me about the band and about playing together. I had pretty much written off playing in bands completely, but Phil came over one day, and I liked Phil, I knew him for a while...he's kind of a freak, but you know thats Phil, ...and I mean so am I so we kinda fit together and umm he played me some shit he wrote, I played him some shit I wrote, and we wrote a bunch of songs that day. So we went downstairs and we started playing, and one of the songs, which is the last song on our record "I Hope All Your Dreams Come True," and Eric, I live in Eric the drummer's house, and he came down and started playing, and that was how it was kinda born. Scott joined the next day. Later to QUIT, but... we just kind of all fell together, the timing was good and there was no real direction, that's the thing about Errortype:11, like we do acoustic songs, we do pop songs, we do sort of heavier songs, whatever is good, is good. You write a song, everybody's into it, and that's kind of the way it goes. No rules.

FE-FE-Paul: Now you guys playing tonight, you're playing with like Buried Alive, and your next show is with Indecision, and...

Artie: Yeah! I forgot to tell the band about that they're gonna be pissed...

(Everyone laughs)FE-FE-Paul: How do you feel about playing...

Artie: You know, Artie Phillie is one of my oldest and dearest friends that's really the only reason I would play that show. I mean THIS show is even weird for us to play. I playing it, again, because like glassjaw, snapcase...I've known Daryl for-fuckin-ever man, like he played..Snapcase on their first tour played with Bad Trip so I met him then, and he comes to all our shows in Buffalo. Like we'll be playing in a basement in front of 50 people, and there's Daryl and that's fuckin' WAY cool. Those guys are all really really cool guys and apparantly they have some list of bands that they wanna play with, and we were on that list, so Christian (promoter) called me and was like yo you wanna play, and I was like yeah whatever so....plus you can never really say no to playing a show in front of that many people.

FE-FE-Paul: Yeah there's a LOT of people here tonight.

Artie: Yeah plus at Indecision there will be a lot of people too. Granted, they're metal kids, they're hard to win over, but you know we win over a few of them every time. Just because we're not metal, doesn't mean we're not good. You know, just sit back and listen, don't mosh.

FE-Gerrett: Seemed like you got a pretty good reaction tonight.

Artie: We sold a fuckin' BOAT LOAD of shit. I was real surprised. When we first set up the merch table people were just walking by, like's who's that? You know, because we haven't played on Long Island in like a year.But then, after we played it was just a rush on the stuff, so that's why we play live. That's why we're good live.

FE-Gerrett: I'm in Florida, and people know you down there, like your stuff is in the stores...

Artie: we do REALLY well in Florida. Gainesville is like our second home. Whenever we're in Florida we stay in Gainesville and just go to each show from there.

FE-Paul: Did you play the Gainesville Fest?

Artie: Yeah we did. That was really cool. Like whenever I'm down in Gainesville it's really cool, because I always feel like I'm a part of something. Like I'm older than everybody else in the scene, and the last time I really felt like I was a part of something was when Mind Over Matter was together and we like first started the scene. Like there really was nothing going on and George and I, and Artie Phillie kinda started the scene on Long Island, and that was the last time I felt like I was really a part of something. When I'm with Hot Water Music, I really feel like I'm part of something. They're REALLY amazing guys.

FE-Gerrett: Yeah, I saw them for the first time a couple of weeks ago in Jacksonville and they were just amazing.

Artie: Oh really? For the first time?..You never saw them during the bad days. You gotta see them during the bad days to compare. That shit happened really quick. Like we toured with them and Grade last year, and it was before they "broke up," and there was only like 40 people at the shows, and they broke up in Europe and they come back and all of a sudden it's like there's 600 people at every show. And it's like where the fuck were all you people before?? It was the strangest thing. We're thinking of breaking up too just for that.

FE-Paul: Are you guys on tour now? Or taking shows as they come?

Artie: We just got back. We set up a tour around the Gainesville Fest. And we're going back out, probably the beginning of March. We're gonna go out to California and play with Hot Water. We'll see what else comes up. It'ls like right now we got this album that's coming out which we think is pretty special and we're hoping this one kinda catches on because the last one really didn't. But I don't really care because I'm not playing for this scene. I mean it's like...I'd like to and I'd like for the kids to get it but the just don't. You know, we're too..mainstream. I thought that we would fill the Quicksand void. I thought maybe kids miss Quicksand they might dig us, but maybe they just didn't miss Quicksand enough. I don't know. It's weird. With this record, I think we really put together...I said this was my "What's the Story Morning Glory," and uhm we already have another record written already and uh I think THAT'S my "Whats the Story Morning Glory." So we'll see.

FE-Paul: You gonna record the new one in like a year or so?

Artie: I don't want to put the new songs out on an indie. I think the new songs are too good. They're fuckin' like Top 40 radio hit material. You know, maybe I'm crazy I don't know but... If it comes out on an indie, it comes out on an indie but I would rather it doesn't. I'd rather push ahead. I'm too old to do this anymore, you know? This is a fluke show with this many people here. It doesn't really mean anything to me you know it's cool, and I like when kids get it but it's not real. If it was just us playing, there would be like 40 people here.

FE-Paul: I see what you're saying.

Artie: It's like the other bands bring the filler in and we just play. The kids that are into it are into it and that's how you get new fans, and that's cool but I would...we all have been shooting for the majors for a long time and you know, we have management, we have a pretty big producer, you know we have all this stuff a lot of bands don't normally get.

FE-Paul: Blue Ghost does your...

Artie: Blue Ghost does our press, yeah, and we have John Agnello which is our producer who produced for Jawbox, and Dinosaur Jr. and shit like that. We got, you know like A&R guys flying out from LA to see us which is meaningless as well, it's like as meaningless as anything else but you know, it encourages me to write and I'm writing songs that I hope people will start getting and...(a cop car speeds by) there go the pigs! (everyone laughs)

FE-Paul: Yeah, we're kinda in the ghetto. Yo, like you go down this street and one section's all ghetto and then there's all these little shops and shit.

Artie: Yeah. I used to go to Sundance and I spent a lot of time here as a kid. That was fucking...13 years ago.

FE-Paul: I was gonna say..Sundance was gone a LONG time ago.

Artie: Yeah I know dude... shut up.

(everyone laughs) FE-Paul: Sundance used to be like fight central.

Artie: I think it closed down when I was in like High School for Christ's sake. But, I spent a lot of my formative years here.

FE-Gerrett: Shit, I'm starting to feel old thinking about like the PWAC or whatever.

FE-Paul: I know right? I feel mad old! You come to shows and everyone's like 14 years old...

Artie: That's fuckin' cool though dude. That means new kids are coming into the scene. I mean this show was a real shock to me because half the show's I've been to in the past few months have been really dead...the past year. Ever since Artie (Phillie) stopped doing shows on Long Island, and the PWAC closed it's been really dead. Because there's no good places to play.

FE-Paul: This place isn't THAT bad, it's not that small. Like people play Ground Zero, and thats a bar so it's...

Artie: Ground Zero SUCKS.

FE-Paul: Exactly. but this place isn't that small...I just don't see it staying open much longer, at least not for shows.I mean it's a club during the week.

Artie: Yeah, it's a REAL club. I mean when they start giving you a hard time like about going in and out..I just can't...I mean I wanna be big time arena rock, but i DON'T want to deal with the door guy. I wanna be back stage chillin.

FE-Paul: This guy, I swear I talked to this guy like 20 times tonight. If he gives me shit about going back in there's gonna be some problems...all my shit's inside.

Artie: Don't worry about it I'll get you back in.

FE-Paul: Well you got the band...that's kind of an advantage you have there. ..umm uhmm umm..now I'm shot.

FE-Gerrett: I think we covered that one bro.

Artie: Was it too much metal dude? Strained your brain on the metal?

FE-Paul: Nah, I don't know. I'm aight.

FE-Gerrett: You mentioned before, like A&R guys coming out to see you and stuff, have there been any talks or anything with any major labels?

Artie: Yeah. There's been a lot actually, but it's so like...Everytime they sign a band, it's like their job is on the line.

FE-Paul: That's true.

Artie: I used to be really really sheepish about talking about it, but now I just don't fucking care. It's like, last year we had Warner Brothers calling my house, and all this fucking crazy shit going on, and I'd be like...'Oh man don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody. They'll kill us in the scene.' And now it's like..Who the fuck cares? Nobody cares anyway. So why should I care? You know? but yeah. They hear our stuff, and they get all excited and they call me and they're like 'Hey man! I think you guys are fuckin great, and blah blah blah.' And it's like Uh huh. They kiss your ass for a while, because that's their job and then you know, nothing gets put on the table. I'm waiting for something on the table. Let's talk money. Give me some fuckin' money.

FE-Paul: The press release said that one of the songs on the new record was a commercial radio single...Is it actually being played on the radio?

Artie: Yeah it is. Actually I think WLIR(Rock Radio Station on Long Island) played it yesterday.

FE-Paul: Yeah?

Artie: Yeah somebody told me they' were listening to LIR and they played it during drive time which is like 5 O'clock, and they were talking about the record and how good we were, and blah blah blah...So I've been listening to LIR and I'm like 'Play it Damn it!'

FE-Paul: What song is it?

Artie: It's called "Kiss Me"

FE-Paul: Ok. I like that one. Angela..Angela? Annie? from Some Records...

Artie: Anna.

FE-Paul: Yeah she sent me the CD.

Artie: Yeah, so fuckin' we did an edit..we did a single edit. We cut like 30 seconds off of it which was kinda cool and the song...I wrote it a couple of weeks before that other song called "Kiss Me" came out, so I was kinda pissed off when I heard that (everyone laughs) I was like 'This Sucks!' So I changed the name to "Things That Make You Wanna Kiss Me" and it's umm...It is a pop radio hit. It's like a Dawson's Creek Soundtrack, special song. We tried to make it fit on the record as much as we could, because a lot of the record is really heavy and then there's that song, you know the token...you know, you listen to a bands record and you're like THAT'S their sellout song! So that's our sellout song. (Starts singing) Kiss Me...

FE-Gerrett: I understand what you're saying. There's one like that on the new Grade...

Artie: Oh oh! (Starts singing again) My relationship...

FE-Gerrett: Yeah!

Artie: I sang it with them every night on tour!

FE-Gerrett: It's a great song though!

Artie: Yeah it's a great song! It sounds like Hot Water Music. Like totally sounds like Hot Water Music. I would sing that song every night with them because I love it. I'd be like 'You guys ROCK' and I'd get really drunk and like fuckin' take my clothes off and be like Yeahhhhh!

FE-Paul: Grade needs to come down here. They never come down here.

Artie: Nah, they're faggots dude. They're not gonna come. (Everyone cracks up) They're faggots dude.

FE-Paul: They're from Canada! (More laughing)

Artie: Nah, Canada's cool man. Fuckin' they're from Toronto too. They're really cool guys. We toured with them and Gameface this summer and they were like fuckin' so cool. and we had a really good time. Like I thought they were kinda sketchy before but after we toured with them, like we totally broke down, and umm me and Kyle even though we both have like total rock star big lead singer heads so it was cool. They do really well, I mean they draw really well.

FE-Paul: Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen them play New York, I mean do they ever play here?

Artie: Yeah, they played Brownies with Hot Water.

FE-Paul: Back like a couple years ago?

Artie: About a year and a half ago. When we toured with them actually, but we didn't play that show. They don't...They played New York on their way up on this tour too, we had separated from them when they played.

FE-Paul: Upstate though right?

Artie: No, I think it was at Brownies again.

FE-Paul: Really??

Artie: Yeah...

Paul: Where the fuck was I? (everyone laughs)

Artie: Who knows dude. Unless you pick up the Voice you're not gonna know about it you know? That's just kinda the way it goes. But yeah they're cool guys. Fuckin' way cool guys. We like to call em GAYde. I try to get the singer Kyle to out of the closet all the time because he's so fuckin' gay. (everyone's laughing) This is good stuff.

FE-Gerrett: This IS good stuff.

Artie: I stripped down naked at the last show we played with them and attacked him and tried to make out with him.

FE-Paul: While they were playing?

Artie: Yeah.

FE-Paul: Works for me.

Artie: There's pictures on the internet of it. They're on our website. Pre-naked though. My underwear's on in the picture. My girlfriend would fuckin' freak if it wasn't. but ANYWAY, Long Island man. You guys from Long Island?

FE-Paul and FE-Gerrett: Yeah.

Artie: You're not though you're from Florida...

FE-Gerrett: I go to school in Florida.

Artie: Allright cool.

FE-Paul: We're from out east. Out East where all we fuckin' have is like Jay May(former Tripface guitarist) and...

Artie: You know Jay man, what's he been up to?

FE-Paul: He umm he got a new job, like something with computers, and I think he wants to go back to school at Stony Brook. He still records.

Artie: I miss those guys.

FE-Paul: He recorded Tension*'s EP they just put out.

Artie: What they put it out on? I don't keep up with the East End metal scene that much...

FE-Paul: Some California label actually. I don't really know who. It was limited.

Artie: The fuckin' East End is the funniest fuckin' place. When I was in Mind Over Matter Artie Phillie and I did this fanzine called Paranoid we would always get these fuckin demos from bands out east that were just REALLY bad like Neglect rip offs...

FE-Gerrett: There were some SHITTY, shitty bands back then.

FE-Paul: Yeah they've all panned out at this point.

Artie: Have they?! Phew.

FE-Paul: Yeah. There's like a few good ones. There's Tommorrow Set Ablaze, Monument...even though they don't really play anymore,

Artie: Monument sounds like they're a Mountain records band.

FE-Paul: Yeah and there's the Bastard War, and that's about it. Everyone else is pretty much shot.

Artie: The Bastard War. Wow. I'm so out of touch.

FE-Gerrett: The funny thing about the East End is like...When we were working during the summer, and we'd see Ryan Motive in 7-11...

Artie: What's Ryan doing?

FE-Paul: Here's here tonight!

Artie: Really? I probably wouldn't recognize him. Ryan was the best. I used to encourage those guys to look as white-trash as humanly possible.

FE-Paul: They're from Mastic and Shirley...

Artie: Yeah dude, I KNOW. (Everyone laughs)Listen I'm from Bellmore, and that's Semi- on the white trash tip. Like a little bit. and Glassjaw is pretty much from North Merrick, North Bellmore, but Mastic Shirley dude?

FE-Paul: I'm from Manorville, I'm a hick.

Artie: In Nassau County dude, we'd be like yo when you cross the Suffolk County border, like the I.Q level drops tremendously..you know it's like being in the fuckin' deep South. But I've learned, I mean most of my best friends are from Suffolk County so they're not all bad.

FE-Paul: Yeah..and Pete Motive's here too.

Artie: Pete Motive's Awesome dude. He played, when Mind Over Matter did our reunion show and John Lafata didn't come - he was playing across town with Madball, so he couldn't come to the show...

FE-Paul: See I went to the Mind Over Matter Reunion show where you DIDN'T play...Centereach VFW? You were supposed to play, it was advertised "Mind Over Matter Reunion Show" for like a Month...

Artie: Someone jumped the gun huh?

FE-Paul: I don't remember who did that show, but we got thereand they're like...'Oh, Mind Over Matter isn't coming' Everyone's just like...Ah.

Artie: It was really hard to get everybody in town at the same time during that period. But we did that show at Coney Island High, it was like a Wreck-Age show, and John couldn't play so Pete..they told me that Motive used to play "Too Much" So I went up to him and was like Pete, you wanna play Too Much? and he's like 'Ok.' So he just got on stage and played it. Then Ben from Silent Majority did the other two songs that he listened to on his CD Player 5 minutes before we went on.

FE-Paul: They come out alright?

Artie: Yeah! I mean it was retarded. There were so many people on stage singing along it didn't even matter.

FE-Paul: Yeah haha he could blame it on people falling into him and shit.

Artie: It was a mess...and I mean I was drunk, I don't remember it. Whatever.

FE-Paul: Now Motive's doing a reunion in two weeks.

Artie: You kidding?

FE-Paul: Nope. January 21st.

Artie: So kids wanna see a Motive reunion. That's sweet. I was hoping they'd catch on. Their record was cool. Just didn't really take off like at the time it came out.

FE-Gerrett: I love that record.

Artie: Yeah I always used to tell them, Go more metal, get out of the Hardcore scene, go more metal, become Neurosis, and just get it over with. (Laughter) Like I encourage most bands, just fuckin' leave the hardcore scene, because it's like kids, they come and go and it's just such a fleeting bullshit thing and there's a few bands that get there and most bands just like you know...If you're young, it's fun. If you're my age? it fucking sucks.

FE-Paul: Yeah, that's why it's all just young kids now.

Artie: That's what it is man, it's just this cycle of young kids and they come and they go and it's usually the kids that start a band or labels, or zines are the ones who stay. But the kids who just like come to shows? They'll leave. If they're Straight Edge? They'll go to college and start drinking. If they're not involved, they're gonna quit as soon as they get bored with it. I don't know. The OLDEST guy EVER is Andy the singer from Kill Your Idols. (Everyone laughs) I mean When I first got into hardcore, Andy was old...Andy was like one of the few...Him and this guy Russ they used to wear these FAT X's on their hands, and they were the only kids. There would be like 10 kids at shows and they'd be there with fat X's on their hands and they'd get all psyched..and Andy's like, he had to be about 25 at the time and I was probably like 17-18 and like he...He's SO OLD now dude! (everyone cracks up) And he disappeared! All of a sudden it's like Andy Straight Edge is like gone, dropped off the face of the Earth, and then a couple of years ago he just comes back and he's the singer of this band, and everyone's like "What the hell is Andy doing here?" It was the weirdest fuckin thing. I mean the dude's like 35. He's GOTTA be. I mean I don't know for sure, but he's fuckin' OLD man. He's like as old as my sister he's so fuckin' old. The dude's OLD. (Laughter) You know our drummer's fuckin' 30 man, he's 30 in 2 days. He's so bummed out.

FE-Paul: Yeah, that'll put a downer on it for a while.

Artie: Bummed me out dude! I walked in that fuckin' place tonight, I was like Oh God, I wanna go home. It's my Birthday, I want some Beers. (He managed a few during this interview, as I am while transcribing it. This thing is getting fucking LONG. -G-) You said you're from Jacksonville? Because I have a good Jacksonville story.

FE-Gerrett: Now, I'm in Tallahassee. I just drove out to Jacksonville with my friend for the Sick Of It All/AFI/Hot Water/Indecision Tour.

FE-Paul: Which got cancelled up here. Which pisses me the fuck off because I had tickets.

Artie: We were supposed to play too. We were gonna open it.

FE-Paul: That's right! Yeah and Hatebreed filled in for AFI.

Artie: Yeah, some shit like that. They called us a couple of weeks before the show and were like 'Can you play?' I was just like I guess, I mean we're kind of retarded on that show, but whatever. I guess we'll be the fuckin' people walking in band. But like I was gonna say, to end the interview I had a good story about Jacksonville. We were playing there with this band called GOB? From Canada.

FE-Gerrett: I think I actually saw their video...

Artie: Yeah I saw it too. On Much Music I saw it. That's because they have to play it. You know that they give grants in Canada? For videos, because they have to have 60% Canadian videos on that station.

FE-Gerrett: I hear Grade's got a video coming out.

Artie: I'm sure they got a grant dude. The Canadian Government gives them fuckin' money to do videos.

FE-Paul: Haha from the fuckin' government.

FE-Gerrett: That's fucked up.

FE-Paul: What the fuck does he care? He's from Canada!?

Artie: Dude. I don't know. So the guys from Six Going On Seven - we were on tour with them - So they go up to him and they're like Yo man, what the fuck's wrong with you? and the guy's like.."well that guy's a dick" and he's saying all this shit. So we're coming off stage, and I go to the back and I say to the guy, Hey man what's up...and the guy's name is...Happy. The guy's name is fuckin' Happy. And he's like I don't know man you were kind of a dick up there, you were talking so much shit...and I'm like you don't fuckin' know you're from CANADA! What the Fuck?! and he's like..Well I think Vancouver is the best place in the World. I'm like ohhhkay, I've never been to Vancouver! That's great. I mean what the fuck opinion do you have about what I'm saying about Jacksonville?? Anyway, other things went on that involved keying, and urine being distributed in... maybe their van but ANYWAY... (Everyone cracks up)

FE-Paul: Haha in MAYBE their van. Like their van or quite possibly someone else's van that looked exactly like their van.

Artie: And we were playing with them the next day, but we got out to our car and the hood of our van was fuckin' keyed, and it was a rent-a-van and we were REALLY pissed off. So the other guys got kinda pissed off and blah blah blah. and so Maybe some things went down, Maybe they didn't. I don't know.

FE-Paul: Yeah its uh been a while right? Can't really remember?

Artie: Yeah I cant remember because I really don't wanna go to Vancouver and get beat up by GOB. Alright, We're done.